Sep 15, 2017
Cass Midgley converses with Martin Hughes, a pseudonym he blogs under to differentiate his blogging from his role as a college professor. Martin is the writer of the Barrierbreaker blog on the Patheos network. He holds a PhD in Modern American Literature and an MA (with distinction) in English. As someone who grew up in the Quiverfull movement, he was the oldest of seven children and never saw the inside of a classroom until his first year of college, when he decided to become an apologist in the mold of CS Lewis. In the middle of earning his PhD he was finally convinced to leave Christianity, and he has been an outspoken advocate for secular humanism ever since.
When we have in our minds and
imaginations how things should go, we drain the life out of what
could otherwise be a beautiful chaos. Saying yes to what is means
denying that we have any control over our circumstances or other
people and even ourselves really. It's only with the benefit of
hindsight that we see our own mistakes, isn't it? In real time,
we're all just doing what think is best at the time, right? or do
we really have time in real time to think? are we just doing and
being what comes up in that second? Isn't everybody just showing
up? We don't have free will. We don't have choices. Not in real
time. See, when we stop thinking life is good or fair or supposed
to be a certain way and just let everyone succeed or fail in real
time and not judge how they could've done that better...when we
release the need and desire to control or shape how this real life
shit plays out...this is not scripted...cameras aren't rolling...we
don't get a second or third take to make it right...we're actually
living. And living is both ugly and beautiful at any given second.
When we say yes to what is, we cease judging. When see ourselves
and our lives and others through the lens of honesty and
reality--not wishful thinking or judgment--we can have compassion.
And compassion breeds patience. It creates real space for others
and ourselves to just show up and be. There is no extant meaning to
life but there is TONS of meaning in the live, spontaneous,
improvisational drama of different human beings showing up and
interjecting themselves into the movie that is our lives...our
reality...playing out in real time. So come on let it go. Just let
Why don't you be you. And I'll be me.
We taped this conversation with Martin Hughes on August 20th, 2017. We interview people you don’t know, about a subject no one wants to talk about. We hope to encourage people in the process of deconstructing their faith and help curb the loneliness that accompanies it. We think the world is a better place when more people live by sight, not by faith. Please subscribe to our podcast, and leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. Our show is available on most podcast platforms. Also, you can support us monetarily in two easy ways: you can pledge one dollar per episode or more through Patreon; that’s www.patreon.com/eapodcast, or leave a lump-sum donation through PayPal at our website, www.everyonesagnostic.com. The smallest contribution is greatly appreciated.
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson
The segue music is on this episode is Let It Go by James Bay
Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is.
Martin's Twitter: @ernestlyseeking