Everyone's Agnostic Podcast (atheism)
Cass & Bob interview people you don't know about a subject no one wants to talk about--losing faith in the supernatural.
Episode 45 Chris Seathinheathin

Cass and Bob interview Chris SeathinHeathin, a local podcaster that we met at ReAsonCon the last weekend in April.  We taped this conversation on May 2nd, 2015.

Chris was an “apatheist” most of his life and didn’t feel the need to express his atheism until he noticed the culture-sprawl of creeping Christian dominionism, to which he retorted by starting the podcast, Unbuckling the Bible Belt.

Chris doesn’t have a post-Christian story, but they discuss binge-drinking, social awkwardness, being a book-nerd history buff and topics from MLK to NSA to NRA to “what is a man?” It’s a bit of a detour from the regular format.  It’s at least a window into another human story that is always uniquely fascinating. 

The irony within this episode is Bob and Chris critique how ill-informed people often talk too much without having the proper knowledge to do so, and yet I (Cass) am the perfect example of that.  

Also, a point I think this conversation raises is that Bob and Chris are life-long non-theists and I was a Christian til 40. I honestly didn't care about "worldly" things--news, world events, history, etc. I only cared about Godly things, things that involved the Kingdom of God. I'm very learned in Scripture and theological topics (which is normally what the podcast is about). This episode exposes my lack of knowledge of the world, and serves as a reminder why are podcast is not topical, but about individual's religious journeys.

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"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is the theme music for Chris’ podcast: Unbuckling the Bible Belt written and performed by Eric Parsons, marrman89@gmail.com

Direct download: Ep_45_Chris_the_SeathenHeathen.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 4:34pm CDT

Episode 44 - Mandisa Thomas

Today our guest is Mandisa L. Thomas, the President of Black NonBelievers Inc.  This is the first in a series of interviews I conducted at the American Atheist convention in Memphis, Easter weekend.  I sat down with Mandisa as she was manning the Black Nonbelievers table at the Conference.  The background noise is constant so put on your loud barroom conversation ears and you’ll hear every word.  

As a description of the function Black Nonbelievers, she writes on the website, “Those of us that do not believe in God are all around you.  We’re everyday people, just trying to live normal lives like everyone else.  We’re your neighbors, students, employees, employers and entrepreneurs. A good many of us are also sitting next to you in religious institutions – either in doubt about their faith, or have given it up altogether. But because serious consequences could occur as a result of going public with their nonbelief – including being shunned by friends and family – they sit in silence and pretend to agree with something they no longer believe is true. And that’s where we come in. We exist not as an alternative, but as a primary support system. Whether you are fully out as a nonbeliever, still questioning your faith, or even if you have to pretend to go with the flow, but need a safe place to vent – we are here for you.”

This was an intense interview for me because of how ignorant I feel as a white, privileged male.  I know you’re going to notice my inherent racism in this conversation. Mandisa was very graceful to my blind-spots and I absolutely loved talking to her. I think there’s a lot here for everyone.  My talk with Mandisa is 44 minutes, followed by commentary with Bob for 27 minutes. --Cass Midgley

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Credits: "Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU / Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson / All other music by Cass Midgley

www.everyonesagnostic.com hosts: Cass Midgley & Dr. Bob Pondillo 

Direct download: Episode_44_Mandisa_Thomas_-_Black_NonBelievers.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 5:21pm CDT

Episode 42 - Tracey Moody

Guest: Blogger and atheist activist Tracey Moody. Very candid interview. Tracey was never a believer. Part of Tracey’s freedom and fearlessness comes from never having been trained under theism. Instead Tracey looked to science for answers and meaning. Tracey’s now famous question at the Creation Debate b/w Ken Ham and Bill Nye was, “What, if anything, would ever you change your mind?” It’s a good question for all of us. This interview was taped on April 13th, 2015.

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"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Percussion by Cass Midgley

Hosts: Cass Midgley & Bob Pondillo


Direct download: Episode_42_Tracey_Moody.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 3:57pm CDT

Episode 40 - Atheist Debater Justin Schieber

Atheist debater Justin Schieber is a young, brilliant self-taught student of Philosophy and Religion.  You can find his debates on YouTube.  Justin is a thinker who uses debate to invigorate the conversation, not end it; to expand our knowledge and enhance our understanding of the "other" perspective.  This episode is an intellectual conversation. It is followable and everyone should be able to get something out of it.  

We taped this show on March 27th, 2015 on a field recorder so its not our regular standard of quality and the memory card filled up after about an hour so it ends rather abruptly.  When we realized what happened we just did the closer questions on Justin’s iPhone and wrapped it up. 


"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Piano by Cass Midgley



Direct download: Episode_40_Justin_Scheiber.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 7:34pm CDT

Episode 38 - Hemant Mehta

Guest: Hemant Mehta.  Author, blogger, and atheist activist. Hemant is a bridgebuilder.  We survey his journey from childhood to now, including his religious background of Jainism, how his emergence as a Youtube sensation started, and what he’s working on now. 

This show was taped on March 17th, 2015. 


"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“Look Back In” by Moby



“I Sold My Soul on Ebay” by Hemant Mehta



Direct download: Episode_38_-_Hemant_Mehta.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 9:23am CDT

Episode 36 - Best of the Web Sampler

We round up some of the best examples of what’s available in atheist media.  We discuss 5 short selections from atheist youtubes and podcasts, including pieces from Mr. Deity and Richard Dawkins, Noah Lugeons of The Scathing Atheist podcast, youtuber Qualia Soup, TJ Kinkaid, aka The Amazing Atheist, and we close with an excerpt from Christopher Hitchens’  last public speech on earth.  

This show was taped on March 4th, 2015. 


"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“Auratune” off Master Plan by Dave Weckl

“Mr. Deity and the Atheist” featuring Brian Keith Dalton and Richard Dawkins


Noah Lugeons, The Scathing Atheist Podcast, Episode 103, the Diatribe: Post-Secular 


QualiaSoup “Lack of Beliefs in Gods”


TheAmazingAtheist, TJ Kincaid, “Atheists Are Just As Bad.”  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n8d_KCUtrs

The End ~Christopher Hitchens, by Scientific Unity 


The edited portion of Hitchen’s speech transcribed:


I’m not as I was.  Something I urgently felt I ought to do or say…and one mustn’t repine or give in to self pity about that, but at this present moment I have to say, I feel very envious of someone who is young and actively starting out in this argument.  Just think of the extraordinary things that are happening to us. Go, for example, to the Smithsonian museum (I hope you’ve done this) to the new hall of human origins-- magnicificanty curated in a new exhibition--which shows, among other things, the branch, or branches along which perhaps three, certainly three, maybe four if you count Indonesia, humanoid, shall we say, anthropoid species died out not very long ago, within mearuable distance of 75,000 years or so.  Possibly destroyed by us, possibly not, we don’t know.  We know they decorated their graves.  We think they probably had language ability.  We don't know if they had souls (I'm sorry I cant help you there).  But I so envy those who could glimpse...I've only mentioned three or four of the things that have magnetized and charmed and gratified me to think about in the recent past, and how much I hope that each of you form some such ambition this evening and carries it forward.  In the meantime, we had the same job we always had, to say as thinking people and as humans that there are no final solutions, there is no absolute truth, there is no supreme leader, there is no totalitarian solution, that says if you would just give up your freedom of inquiry, if you would just give up, if you would simply abandon your critical faculties the world of idiotic bliss can be yours but we have to begin by repudiating all such claims.  Grand rabbis, chief ayatollahs, infallible popes, the peddlers of surrogate and mutant, quasi-political religion and worship. The Dear Leader, the Great Leader, we have no need for any of this.  And looking at them and their record and the pathos of their supporters, I realize that it is they who are the grand imposters.  And my own imposture this evening was mild by comparison.  Thank you very much.  –Christopher Hitchens, 2011

Direct download: Episode_36_-_Best_of_the_Web_sampler.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 11:31am CDT

Episode 34 Fred Rich: Christian Nation

Our guest is Fred Rich, author of the dystopian novel, “Christian Nation.” Fred is a polymath, who studied politics and policy at Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School and pursued graduate work in moral philosophy as a Keasbey Scholar at King’s College, Cambridge. He practiced law for the past 30 years.  Newly retired, he splits his time between Manhattan and New York’s Hudson Valley where he is working on a non-fiction book about environmental politics, and several other novels.


Although this book, Christian Nation, is fiction, it does not stretch reality, it is not a conspiracy theory, it lays out exactly how, through legitimate legal means, America could become a Christian Theocracy.  The wall of separation is vulnerable. In the spirit of Philip Roth's The Plot Against America, one of America's foremost lawyers lays out in chilling detail what such a future might look like: constitutional protections dismantled; all aspects of life dominated by an authoritarian law called "The Blessing," enforced by a reconfigured Internet known as the "Purity Web." Those who defy this system, among them the narrator, live on the edges of society, sustained by the belief that democracy will rise to triumph over such tyrannical oppression.


This show was taped on February 21st, 2015. 


"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Youtube trailer for the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxrkXdnlzks

“Ashielf Pi” by E.S. Posthumus

“This Land is Your Land” by Woody Guthrie


Literature referenced:  

It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis

The Plot Against America, Philip Roth

The Handmaid’s Tale, Margaret Atwood

Republican Gomorrah, Max Blumenthal

Kingdom Coming, Michelle Goldberg

American Fascists, Chris Hedges

Empire of Illusion, Chris Hedges

American Theocracy, Kevin Phillips

At the Smithville Methodist Church, Stephen Dunn






Direct download: Episode_34_Fred_Rich.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 3:16pm CDT

Episode 32 - Ryan Bell, Year Without God

Our guest is Ryan Bell, the Year Without God pastor.  His experiement proved fatal to his faith but Ryan holds onto the good and embarks on a new journy, like many of us have, reconstructing his own "how now shall I live."  A 7th Day Adventist pastor for 20 years, Ryan could no longer harmonize his reality with his religion.  We also talk about the President's prayer breakfast and the mutual exclusivity of love and power.  

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
"Never Know" by Jack Johnson
"Losing My Religion" by REM 
"World" by Five for Fighting
Direct download: Episode_32_-_Ryan_Bell.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 2:18pm CDT

Episode 31 - Geoff Wilkerson
Geoff grew up Church of Christ Lite, attended Oklahoma Christian for undergrad but 9/11 happened his senior year so he enlisted in the Army. His time in Iraq was a big transition and by the time he got back, he had come to question a lot of the things he'd believed for a long time, including his religious faith. He became very interested in politics and foreign policy as a result. He works in Cybersecurity at Seagate in OKC.
He considers his current state to be a step beyond his old views, rather than an abandonment of them. He doesn't harbor any ill will towards the church or the people I knew in that community. He still agrees with a large portion of Jesus's teachings. Geoff is a true agsnotic. He's open to the possibility of divinity, just doesn't believe there is compelling evidence.
Geoff loves his life.  He is happily married to an extraordinary woman, enjoys his job, lives close to his family, and considers himself privileged. He's traveled to 40 countries on 5 continents and made long-lasting friendships all along the way. 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
"I Am Mine" by Pearl Jam
Direct download: Episode_31_-_Geoff_final.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 2:56pm CDT

Episode 30 - Wendy

Moving from the NE 10 years ago, Wendy had a head-on collision with the Christian dominance of the South and she hasn't recovered yet.  Hear her story, told with honesty and New Jersey vernacular.   

Direct download: Episode_30_-_Wendy.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 5:47pm CDT