Everyone's Agnostic Podcast
Cass Midgley interviews people you don't know about a subject no one wants to talk about: losing faith in the supernatural.
Episode 79 Gayle Jordan

Cass & Dr. Bob interview Gayle Jordan. Gayle is the founder of our local Murfreesboro Freethinkers, now over 600 members strong. She’s a mover and shaker and someone to watch in the atheist movement. Raised southern Baptist, her deconversion was parallel with her own mid-life health and fitness awakening. As she turned 40 she decided to study the science of personal health, where she bumped into a lot of science which included evolution. Between this and her children’s questions about Bible assertions, her confidence in Christianity unraveled. In the meantime she earned a law degree and strengthened her body enough to complete the Iron Man Triathlon.

We taped this conversation on December 5th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

http://www.meetup.com/Murfreesboro-Freethinkers/ 
http://gaylejordan.net/

Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
All other music is by Cass Midgley

Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is.

 

Direct download: Ep79_Gayle_Jordan.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 9:51pm CDT
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Episode 78 author Paul Kivel

Cass and Dr. Bob interview Paul Kivel, author of many books but today we focus on “Living in the Shadow of the Cross: Understanding and Resisting the Power and Privilege of Christian Hegemony.” Hegemony is defined as aggression or expansionism by a certain group with the intent to achieve domination. Here in the west, we are fish swimming in Christian hegemony. Paul defines it on his website, christianhegemony.org as the everyday, pervasive, and systematic set of Christian values and beliefs, individuals and institutions that dominate all aspects of our society through the social, political, economic, and cultural power they wield. Nothing is unaffected by Christian hegemony (whether we are Christian or not) including our personal beliefs and values, our relationships to other people and to the natural environment, and our economic, political, education, health care, criminal/legal, housing, and other social systems.  Christian hegemony as a system of domination is complex, shifting, and operates through the agency of individuals, families, church communities, denominations, parachurch organizations, civil institutions, and through decisions made by members of the ruling class and power elite.  Christian hegemony benefits all Christians, all those raised Christian, and those passing as Christian. However the concentration of power, wealth, and privilege under Christian hegemony accumulates to the ruling class and the predominantly white male Christian power elite that serve its interests. All people who are not Christian, as well as most people who are, experience social, political, and economic exploitation, violence, cultural appropriation, marginalization, alienation and constant vulnerability from the dominance of Christian power and values in our society. Christian hegemony operates on several levels. At one level is the internalization of dominant western Christian beliefs and values by individuals in our society. Another level is the power that individual preachers, ministers and priests have on people’s lives. Particular churches and some Christian denominations wield very significant political and economic power in our country. There is a vast network of parachurch organizations, general tax-supported non-profits such as hospitals, broadcasting networks, publishing houses, lobbying groups, and organizations like Focus on the Family, Prison Fellowship, The Family, World Mission, and thousands of others which wield influence in particular spheres of U.S. society and throughout the world. Another level of Christian dominance is within the power elite, the network of 7-10,000 predominantly white Christian men who control the largest and most powerful social, political, economic, and cultural institutions in the country. And finally there is the level which provides the foundation for all the others–the long and deep legacy of Christian ideas, values, practices, policies, icons, and texts that have been produced within dominant western Christianity over the centuries. That legacy continues to shape our language, culture, beliefs, and values and to frame public and foreign policy decisions. Christian dominance has become so invisible that its manifestations appear to be secular, i.e. not religious. In this context, the phrase “secular Christian dominance” might be most appropriate, Christian hegemony under the guise of secularism. Of course, there are many forms of Christian fundamentalism which are anything but secular. Often fundamentalists want to create some kind of theocratic state. But the more mainstream, everyday way that dominant Christian values and institutions influence our lives and communities is less evident, although no less significant and certainly not limited to fundamentalists.

Paul is also the author of: 
“Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice” 
“Men's Work: How to Stop the Violence That Tears Our Lives Apart” 
“Making the Peace: A 15-Session Violence Prevention Curriculum for Young People” 
“You Call This a Democracy?”

www.paulkivel.com 
www.christianhegemony.org

We taped this conversation on Nov. 16th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
All other music is by Cass Midgley

I also want to take this moment to thank my co-host Bob Pondillo. Not only is he one of my very best friends in the world, but what he brings to this show is invaluable. I’m not saying anything our listeners don’t already know, but Bob’s personality and perspective never fails to color every conversation with that unique Bobness. It’s enough that he’s a walking encyclopedia but a deeply empathic human soul as well who seems to always insert quips and comments that add wisdom and context to my often naïve callowness. We all know this show would not be the same without him, nor the cache and value that his scholarship and wit bring. I love you, Bob and thanks so much for doing this podcast with me. I’m forever grateful.   --Cass Midgley

Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is.

 

Direct download: Ep78_Paul_Kivel.mp3
Category:christian hegemony -- posted at: 4:47pm CDT
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Episode 77 Brynda Quinn

Cass and Dr. Bob talk with Brynda Quinn, a local Psychologist here in middle Tennessee. We met at the Nashville Sunday Assembly where she spoke on the same Sunday that Bob and Cass spoke. She doesn’t have a strong religious back story, but Christianity doesn’t have a corner on causing shame. Brynda’s story involves a chaotic dysfunctional family, a stint in Saudi Arabia, and her personal pursuit of perfection and the toll that takes on the human experience. This episode is our nod to the benefits of psychology. We play an excerpt from a TED talk given by a Psychologist who has greatly influenced Brynda: Kristin Neff. Neff is an associate professor in the University of Texas at Austin's department of educational psychology. She created the Self-compassion Scales. She has been credited with conducting the first academic studies into self-compassion.

Brynda is a big proponent of Sunday Assembly, the atheist “church” started by Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans in 2013 in London. Wikipedia describes it as a gathering mostly for non-religious people who want a similar communal experience to a religious church, though religious people are also welcome.

We taped this talk on Nov. 14th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
All other music is by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: Ep_77_Brynda_Quinn.mp3
Category:psychology -- posted at: 4:40pm CDT
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Episode 76 Ben Bible

Today Cass & Bob interview Ben Bible, an 18 year old MTSU student here in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Dr. Bob had Ben in class and approached Bob about his post-Christian experience, so we had him on the show. This turned out to be a really good talk. We’ve wanted to have a representation of the millennial generation on the show and we got a good one.

We hit on: Millennial generation attitude toward Christianity, Climate change, and political correctness. Some of Ben’s favorite online talk shows:

Secular Talk Radio – Kyle Kulinski https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCldfgbzNILYZA4dmDt4Cd6A

The Atheist Experience w/ Matt Dillahunty https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCprs0DXUS-refN1i8FkQkdg

We taped this talk on November 14th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Direct download: Ep_76_Ben_Bible.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 3:15pm CDT
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Episode 75 David Buchanan

Cass & Bob converse with philosopher David Buchanan. He is a personal acquaintance of Robert Persig, the author of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. He wrote a Master’s thesis on how Persig’s work aligned with the theories of early 20th century philosopher, William James, and how they both turned conventional Platonic philosophy on its head. Like Joseph Campbell, Buchanan endorses the power of myth and story-telling to convey morals, existential framing, and, most poignant in this conversation, the reality of personal mystical experiences that are beyond explanation.

We taped this talk on Nov. 8th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com/eapodcast is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro music "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
All other music is by Cass Midgley 
Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is.

 

Direct download: Ep75_David_Buchanan.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 9:46pm CDT
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Episode 74 Bill Hunsicker

Cass & Bob interview Bill Hunsicker—a single, white male, military vet, bookkeeper, libertarian, and atheist. He dabbled in Christianity, Jehovah Witness, and Mormonism. Today his worldview is shaped by the NeoThink Society, the Twelve Visions Party, and philosopher Stefan Molyneux.

Bill’s website: http://www.tocreateanewworld.blogspot.com/ 
Stefan Molyneux podcast: www.fdrpodcast.com

We taped this talk on November 7th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
Musical segue excerpts from The Eagle’s “The Last Resort.”

Direct download: Ep74_Bill_Hunsicker.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 3:10pm CDT
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Episode 73 Hugh Mann

Cass Midgley presents an impromptu interview with fan of the show, Hugh Mann (not his real name). Hugh is not out as a non-theist for fear that his employment would be threatened if he were. 

Hugh has a doctorate in the arts and teaches. He also volunteers for the Recovering from Religion Hotline, which is a great outreach for people deconverting from their childhood faith, and we all know lonely and difficult that can be. That number is 1-84-I-Doubt-It  (1+ (844) 368-2848).  Unfortunately, Bob was not in on this talk. 

We also feature Dr. Suess’s “Star Bellied Sneetches. It’s 12 minutes long.

We taped this talk on Oct 31st, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
The audio of Star Bellied Sneetches was extracted from the YouTube presentation of the same.     

Unbuckling the Bible Belt Podcast https://unbucklingblog.wordpress.com/category/podcast-2/ 

Gaytheist Manifesto Podcast http://gaytheistmanifesto.secularmediagroup.com/

Direct download: Ep73_Hugh_Mann.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 3:27pm CDT
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Episode 72 Dan Barker

Cass & Bob talk with former pastor, Dan Barker. Dan was a door-to-door evangelical Christian whose mission was set on saving souls. This is his story of deconversion. In his words, he drained the bathwater and there was no baby. The first time he came out as ex-Christian was in 1984 on the Oprah Winfrey show, where he also met his future wife, Annie Laurie Gaylor, and co-president with him of the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

His new book is “Life Driven Purpose.” 
http://ffrf.org/

We taped this talk on Oct 31st, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 
All other music by either Dan Barker or myself.   

 

 

Direct download: Ep_72_Dan_Barker.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 3:15pm CDT
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Episode 71 Absence of Christ

Cass & Bob chat with their anonymous guest who blogs as The Absence of Christ. “David” is the son of a charismatic Christian minister. They pull back the veil of charismania and discuss in detail the antics that come out of believing that god wants to show out in signs in wonders. This brought back some strange and embarrassing memories for Cass and was new info for Bob.

https://absenceofchrist.wordpress.com/

We taped this talk on Oct 24th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson
All other music is by Cass Midgley

Direct download: Ep71_Absence_of_Christ.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 1:29pm CDT
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Episode 70 Krista Tippett

Cass Midgley & Dr. Bob Pondillo welcome Krista Tippett, host of the NPR program “On Being.” Krista is a Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times bestselling author. In 2014, she received the National Humanities Medal at the White House for “thoughtfully delving into the mysteries of human existence. On the air and in print, Ms. Tippett avoids easy answers, embracing complexity and inviting people of all faiths, no faith, and every background to join the conversation."

http://onbeing.org/

We taped this talk on Oct 19th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson
All other music is by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: Ep70_Krista_Tippett.mp3
Category:spirituality -- posted at: 2:12pm CDT
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Episode 69 Lex Pelger

Cass Midgley and Dr. Bob Pondillo talk with Lex Pelger. This is a one of a kind conversation a young genius. Lex grew up in Amish country Pennsylvania. As a Christian missionary, he built houses in Haiti and his personal pilgrimage took him through Nepal and traveled all across North America. He majored in biochemistry and molecular biology at Boston University. He spent a year hitchhiking around the States. He advocates for medical use of cannabis and hallucinogenic. 

We taped this talk on Oct 17th , 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: ep69_lex_pelger.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 5:11pm CDT
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Episode 68 Rondale Williams

Dr. Bob Pondillo and Cass Midgley talk with Rondale Williams--a young, black atheist man living in Atlanta; ex-Mormon, programmer, co-host "Angry Black Rant" podcast.

We taped this talk on Oct 3rd, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

http://angryblackrant.com/category/podcast/

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is written and performed by Cass Midgley. 

 

Direct download: Ep68_Rondale_Williams.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 3:46pm CDT
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Episode 67 Gretta Vosper - Canadian Pastor, out atheist

Cass Midgley & Bob Pondillo talk with Gretta Vosper, pastor of West Hill United Church in Scarborough, Ontario. She’s also founder of the Canadian Centre for Progressive Christianity back in 2004. Over the last decade, she has written about the rejection of an interventionist god and the impervious idea that the Bible is the ultimate authority for all time and people and yet remained the pastor of a Christian church. You heard me right: an “out” non-theist pastor still in the pulpit.

 

We taped this talk on Oct 3rd, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is written and performed by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: Ep_67_Gretta_Vosper.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 11:12am CDT
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Episode 66 Baba Brinkman - Rap Guide to Religion

Cass and Bob talk with Baba Brinkman, a Canadian rapper and playwright who’s best known for combining hip-hop music with literature and science. He’s a comparative literature scholar with a vast repertoire of rap guides to literature, evolution, religion, human nature, business, medicine, wilderness, climate change…you name it, he’s rapped about it. He is a one-of-a-kind artist. Brinkman’s plays have toured the world and enjoyed successful runs at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival and off-Broadway in New York. His newest play The Rap Guide to Religion recently concluded a six month run at the Soho Playhouse, where it was nominated for a Drama Desk Award in the category “Unique Theatrical Experience”. Baba is also a pioneer in the genre of “lit-hop” or literary hip-hop, known for his adaptations of The Canterbury Tales, Beowulf, and Gilgamesh. He has spoken at several TEDx conferences.

We taped this talk on Oct 3rd, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

www.bababrinkman.com

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is by Baba Brinkman and his co-writers.

Direct download: Ep66_Baba_Brinkman.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 11:00pm CDT
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Ep65 Becky Garrison, Religious Satirist

Cass Midgley & Dr. Bob Pondillo interview religious satirist, Becky Garrison, author of “Red and Blue God, Black and Blue Church: Eyewitness Accounts of How American Churches are Hijacking Jesus, Bagging the Beatitudes, and Worshipping the Almighty Dollar,” as well as, “The New Atheist Crusaders and Their Unholy Grail: The Misguided Quest to Destroy Your Faith.” Becky has a keen eye on religion and culture. Becky’s father with an abusive alcoholic Anglican priest. She pursues healing through mindfulness, non-violent communication, humanism, and spirituality.

This conversation was taped on September 19th, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro music is from "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: Ep_65_Becky_Garrison.mp3
Category:spirituality -- posted at: 5:39pm CDT
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Ep 64 Jim Mulholland, ex-Quaker

Cass & Bob interview Jim Mulholland, a former Methodist and Quaker minister. Jim is the author of “Leaving Your Religion” and blogs at leavingyourreligion.com. He has a great youtube talk called “Leaving My Religion.” Today, he’s non-religious but he saved the baby after draining the bathwater. This conversation was taped on September 12th,2015.

http://leavingyourreligion.com/

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: Ep64_Mulhollland.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 5:41pm CDT
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Episode 63 Daniel Duncan

Cass, Bob, and Daniel talk about Daniel’s post-Christian journey.  

Daniel’s podcast, Country Fried Freethought http://www.countryfriedfreethought.com/

This conversation was taped on September 5th,2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits: 

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson 

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: Ep_63_Daniel_Duncan.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 2:16pm CDT
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Episode 62 Heina Dadabhoy

Our guest today, Heina Dadabhoy, is an ex-Muslim atheist activist and author of “The Skeptics Guide to Islam” coming out in December 2015. She blogs at “Heinous Dealings.” Heina was raised Muslim and is of Indian decent. She wore a headscarf from age to 10 to 17. One thing you won’t find in Heina is anger and bitterness toward her childhood faith. She brings a fair, honest, and objective voice to helping the rest of us understand Islam.

This conversation was taped on August 29th,2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/heinous/

 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: ep62_heina_dadabhoy.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 12:43am CDT
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Episode 61 Wayne Rumsby

Cass and Bob interview Canadian Wayne Rumsby. Wayne is a craftsman. His heart is enormous. He is so genuinely human. He and his wife are some of those unfortunate parents who’ve had to bury a child—a special needs child with a degenerative disease that was never diagnosed in his short 18 year life. Wayne’s heart for social justice survived his Christianity and today he holds out hope to be able to continue his work with people broken on the wheels of life by creating quality furniture in the retreat center he calls home. 

This conversation was taped on August 22nd,2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Wayne's woodwork: http://waylyn.ca/whoa-creative-works/whoa-gallery/ 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: ep_60_Wayne.mp3
Category:humanism -- posted at: 2:19pm CDT
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Episode 60 Callie Wright

Welcome everyone to episode 60 of the Everyone’s Agnostic podcast. Cass Midgley and Dr. Bob Pondillo interview fellow atheist podcaster Callie Wright. This conversation is a course in transgender basics 101. Callie generously and gracefully accommodates our ignorance. Her patience with our ignorance is her way of making the world suck less for transgender people by helping cisgender people acquire empathy for their plight in a culture that is often hostile towards them. As is true of all marginalized peoples, it’s impossible to keep one’s bigotry towards them when you know one. Callie produces a podcast titled Gaytheist Manifesto. Look for it on all podcast platforms.

This conversation was taped on August 15th,  2015. 

Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley. 

Direct download: Ep_60_Callie_Wright.mp3
Category:transgender atheism -- posted at: 3:34pm CDT
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Ep59 Bobby C. & Ms. Ashley

Bob and Cass converse with fellow podcasters Bobby C and Ms. Ashley of "No Religion Required." Bobby and Ashley’s stories converge after years of abuse and soul-searching, where they have found love, solace, and community unlike any they ever knew apart from each other. This is a good story, check it out.  This conversation was taped on August 8th,  2015.

 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: ep59_No_Religion_Requireds_Bobby_C__Ms_Ashley.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 2:58pm CDT
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Episode 58 Bart Campolo

Episode 58 of the Everyone’s Agnostic podcast features Cass Midgley and Bob Pondillo discussing how non-religious, naturalist thinkers frame the issue of death and whether or not we have an honest narrative that is, in fact, comforting to those grieving their lost loved ones. We borrow clips from Hemant Mehta’s podcast, the Friendly Atheist, where he interviews Bart Campolo, a Humanist Chaplain for USC and UCLA. You can listen to that entire interview here.

This episode was taped on August 1st  2015.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Thanks to Hemant Mehta for letting us use clips from his podcast The Friendly Atheist.

Check out Bart Campolo’s podcast Wonder-Full Life at http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-wonderfull-podcast

 

 

Direct download: ep_58_campolo.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 4:05pm CDT
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Episode 57: Lydia Allan

Bob and Cass interview one of the most exciting new voices in atheist podcasting, Lydia Allan. David Smalley, of the ground-breaking podcast Dogma Debate, discovered Lydia as she was speaking at a local freethinkers meetup in Dallas. He was so impressed with her that he approached to come on his show as a regular co-host and we all benefit from his intuition. Her undergraduate degree was in Psychology, she holds two Masters degrees in Neuroscience and  ? and is currently working on a PhD in The History and Philosophy of Science.

In the spirit of “the more you know, the more you realize you don’t know,” Lydia bears a refreshing humility while be very smart and well educated and even feisty at times. She’s exactly the kind of voice we want at the table. One of the best mixes of learned, empathic, angry, and compassionate I’ve ever interviewed.  I think you’re going to like this talk. 

This conversation was taped on July 27th  2015.   

Subscribe to our podcast on Patreon, iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

 

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: ep_57_Lydia_Allan.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 4:22pm CDT
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Episode 56 Skeptic Muse

On episode 56 of the Everyone’s Agnostic podcast Bob and Cass interview Charlie--a pseudonym. He writes and performs music on a Youtube channel called Skeptic Muse. This music chronicles the arguments for atheism and against theism that charted Charlie’s deconversion from Christianity. We feature 4 songs during the interview. Charlie’s a very talented musician and just a great guy. I think you’ll enjoy our talk.  

This conversation was taped on July 19th.  Our opening monologue is an excerpt from a Youtube called “Towering Mountain of Ignorance” by Hank Green. The opening music is “never know” by Jack Johnson, and The musical segues on this episode were written and performed by Skeptic Muse. 

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Direct download: Ep_56_Skeptic_Muse.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 12:10pm CDT
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Episode 55 Sarah Green & Adam House

Cass interviews Sarah Green and Adam House. Sarah is the Tennessee Regional Director of American Atheists. Adam is an ex-pastor and an Afghanistan war veteran. Both raised Baptist, both now agnostic atheists. We talk misogyny within Christianity, PTSD, the medicinal benefits of marijuana for PTSD, atheist activism, bravery, shifting social mores, and a rare sighting of theist/atheist siblings supporting each other. Who knew? Bob was on vacation at the taping of this show, which was July 11th, 2015 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro music "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: Ep_55_Sarah_Green__Adam_House3.mp3
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Episode 54 Jennifer Crumpton - Femmevangelical

A native of Birmingham, AL, Jennifer graduated from Samford University in 1996 with a degree in Journalism and Mass Communications. For 13 years, her career progressed as an advertising executive developing campaigns for major global brands such as Citigroup, MasterCard and Chase. This work took her from Atlanta to New York City, where she also spent time working in theater, independent film, commercials and playwriting. Intrigued by the power of story to increase human empathy, and the dynamic effect of popular culture and personal narrative on political persuasion, faith practices and ideological identity, Jennifer left her business career to attend Union Theological Seminary in New York City. At Union, she studied inter-religious dialogue, Christian ethics and feminist theology, and immersed in faith-based social justice initiatives. She graduated in 2011 with a Master of Divinity.

Jennifer has since applied her mix of skills and interests in non-profit executive positions at the nation’s largest inter-religious media company, Odyssey Networks, and the inter-faith dialogue and advocacy organization Intersections International. She is also Vice President for Strategic Partnerships at the Int’l Center for Religion and Diplomacy in Washington DC where she serves as liaison to the United Nations.

She writes regularly for Patheos and Huffington Post as Femmevangelical: The Modern Girl’s Guide to the Good News, and hosts a monthly radio show segment about women, faith and politics on national Fairness Radio.

She speaks charitably of a term Jesus used most commonly translated as the ‘kingdom of god” but she calls it “the realm of God” perhaps because, like so many biblical terms, the old vernacular carries too much baggage. I imagine “kingdom” sounds too much like dominionism, and she also reclaims the word repentance. To Jennifer, it’s simply a changing of the mind, a newly informed world view that is often a complete 180 from previous assumptions. It represents being teachable, staying in the room with difference, and actually listening and learning new perspectives. 

Jennifer is a Christian reforming from within. Something I was not able to do. I have a special appreciation for those who are helping the church regain relevance and Jennifer is one of those. She holds on to a lot of scriptures, but especially the radical Jesus. Unfortunately I didn’t get to the more dogmatic questions as to where she stands on some doctrinal issues

This conversation was taped on June 27th, the day of after the SCOTUS ruling on marriage equality. Bob was out of town at the time so I invited my friend Chrissy Miller to co-host with me.

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music written and performed by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: Ep_54_Jennifer_Crumpton.mp3
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Episode 53 Drew Bekius - The Clergy Project

This week Cass is in conversation with former pastor, Drew Bekius of The Clergy Project. Drew serves on TCP's Board of Directors and as Chair of the Communications Committee. The Clergy Project’s Mission is to provide support, community, and hope to current and former religious professionals who no longer hold supernatural beliefs. Drew blogs at drewbekius.com and is working on a book tentatively titled “The Rise and Fall of Faith.” EA co-host Bob Pondillo was on vacation when this conversation was taped on June 20th, 2015 so this is just two ex-pastors in conversation. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music performed by Nikolay Gavlishin

Direct download: Ep_53_Drew_Bekius.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 10:28pm CDT
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Episode 52 - Denial of Death - Ernest Becker

One year birthday of the Everyone's Agnostic podcast! This week we feature Dr. Sheldon Solomon lecturing on Ernest Becker's Pulitzer Prize winner book, "The Denial of Death." Becker reveals how and why we humans look to constructed narratives to ease our anxiety around death. This is the crux of why we need religion and why we so easily feel threatened by those with different beliefs. If this won't change your life, nothing will.  

 

This episode was recorded on June 27th, 2015. Our opening monologue is an excerpt from a Youtube called “Towering Mountain of Ignorance” by Hank Green. The opening music is “never know” by Jack Johnson, and The musical segues on this episode were written and performed by Cass Midgley.

Direct download: Ep_52_Denial_of_Death.mp3
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Episode 51 Bob & Cass on Charleston

We discuss the murders in Charleston last week and how some people refuse to talk about the true motive of the crime. I believe religion plays a role in this and many other denials of reality. And speaking of beliefs, we discuss what would happen if we shed all beliefs. As a result of this talk, Cass decides to fast from beliefs for a season to see what effect it has on his life.

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Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Music written and performed by Cass Midgley

Direct download: Ep_51_Cass__Bob_on_Charleston.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 10:01pm CDT
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Episode 50: Wendy Thomas Russell

Cass Midgley and Bob Pondillo interview Wendy Thomas Russell, author of “Relax, It's Just God: How and Why to Talk to Your Kids About Religion When You're Not Religious.” Wendy is a blogger on Patheos under “Natural Wonderers” and her work has been published in Psychology Today, The Washington Post, New York Times Magazine’s Sixth Floor Blog, Time Magazine, AlterNet, Salon, and the Humanist Community Project at Harvard, and other outlets. She also writes an online parenting column for the PBS NewsHour.

This episode was recorded on June 13th, 2015. Our opening monologue is an excerpt from a Youtube called “Towering Mountain of Ignorance” by Hank Green. The opening music is “never know” by Jack Johnson, and The musical segues on this episode is classical guitar performed by friend of the show Nikolay Gavlishin

Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work. That’s patreon.com/eapodcast. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Music performed by Nikolay Gavlishin

 

 

Direct download: Ep50_Wendy_Thomas_Russell.mp3
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Episode 49 American Atheist Convention 2015

Back on April 4th, I taped a few random interviews at the American Atheist Convention in Memphis, so today I’m posting a few selections from that experience.

 

The first is a 9 minute interview with Dave Kong. Dave was personal friends with Madalyn Murray O’Hare, the founder of American Atheists and has witnessed the movement from the beginning. He served on the board for 27 years. And for those who may have little exposure to Madalyn, I’ve posted an 11 minute excerpt from a speech she gave at the 1972 AA convention, 10 years after she founded the movement. .

 

Next is a 6 minute interview with comedian Keith Lowell Jensen who performed a stand-up routine at the conference. I tacked on a 3 minute excerpt of a bit he performed there. Keith has his own podcast called, “It’s Funny Because” available on iTunes and Facebook.

 

Lastly, I play a fascinating talk given by Dr. Jennifer Michael Hecht called Poetic Atheism. She wrote a book that changed my life called, “Stay: A History of Suicide and the Arguments Against It.” She argues that to say that there is no meaning to life, or that we have to make our own meaning seems misguided and that meaning has always been a part of community and culture, we need not invent it. She earned her Ph.D. from Columbia University in the History of Science and European Cultural History. She is the author of 3 other books, including “Doubt: A History: The Great Doubters and Their Legacy of Innovation from Socrates and Jesus to Thomas Jefferson,” and “The Happiness Myth: The Historical Antidote to What Isn't Working Today.”

 

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Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Music performed by Nikolay Gavlishin

Direct download: ep_49_AA_con_2015.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 5:13pm CDT
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Episode 48 Dan Arel

Cass Midgley and Dr. Bob Pondillo interview journalist, author, blogger Dan Arel. His work is seen on AlterNet, Huff Post, and Patheos as Danthropology.  He’s written for The American Ahteist Magazine and the Richard Dawkins Foundation. Dan has written a book called, “Parenting Without God: How to Raise Moral, Ethical, and Intelligent Children, Free from Religious Dogma.”  Dan is also the blogger who gained recognition from his op ed on the Ken Ham/Bill Nye debate as well as the Creation Museum’s attempt to use Kentucky tax dollars to build Noah’s Ark. Dan is a serious mover and shaker in the secular movement. We think you’ll benefit from getting to know him. 

Credits: "Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU 

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: dan_arel_edit1.mp3
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Today’s show is unlike anything we’ve ever or ever will do again. As you may know, Cass was an evangelical Christian the first 39 years of his life and a minister for the last 20 of that. Bob never believed. They got together because they were both fascinated with the anthropology of why humans need God. Today, they examine an artifact of Cass' theism. They are going to play a 45 minute sermon that Cass orated in late 2005 in a small charismatic church in north Texas. What is captured on tape here is the last waning year of Cass' Christian faith, This is the last sermon he ever gave, and a perceptive ear will hear, although couched in Christian language and laden with scripture references, the mental migration he was making toward humanism, naturalism, and agnosticism. It would about 6 to 7 more years before he had embraced full on atheism. and eventually anti-theism. 

Some will be unable to get through it for various reasons. It will bring back memories and emotions for some post-Christians. It might be torturous for some (as it was for Cass) and humorous for others. We just invite you to notice what you notice. Like most charismatic preachers, it gets more and more emotional in time. 

Bob and Cass do a brief intro and follow with about 15 minutes of commentary. We hope, as always, this experience stretches you as a human being.   

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Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music by Moby and used by permission

 

 

Direct download: Episode_47_Cass_Last_Sermon_as_a_Christian_2005.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 10:17pm CDT
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Episode 46 Eli aka prplfox

Cass and Bob interview Eli, a YouTuber that goes by the name Purple Fox. Eli got saved at a Young Life camp as a teenager but by the time he was 20 was convinced it was all untrue and yet still found himself in ministry. His journey is described in detail in a YouTube series called Deconversion parts 1 thru 6.  This episode hits the bullseye of what this podcast is all about. 

The deconversion process can be very traumatic.  Christianity is an identity-forming idea and Eli conveys just how devastating it can be to emerge as a young adult and realize your identity is not real. In the mid-2000s, Eli couldn’t understand why more people weren’t talking about this, so he made the videos. 10 years later, the web is packed with ex-Christian material and as the recent Pew research shows: Christianity is shrinking and those leaving their religious affiliation is booming.  

The first hour is our talk with Eli, followed by Bob and Cass' commentary.   

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Notes: 

J. L. Schellenberg and Divine Hiddenness 

Book: “Mistakes Were Made, but Not By Me” by Carol Tavris & Elliot Aronson

Book: Jonathan Haidt - "The Righteous Mind"

The New True Charlie Woo movie by Bob Pondillo

Credits: 

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music by Cass Midgley

 

Direct download: Episode_46_Eli_aka_prplfox.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 12:01am CDT
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Episode 45 Chris Seathinheathin

Cass and Bob interview Chris SeathinHeathin, a local podcaster that we met at ReAsonCon the last weekend in April.  We taped this conversation on May 2nd, 2015.

Chris was an “apatheist” most of his life and didn’t feel the need to express his atheism until he noticed the culture-sprawl of creeping Christian dominionism, to which he retorted by starting the podcast, Unbuckling the Bible Belt.

Chris doesn’t have a post-Christian story, but they discuss binge-drinking, social awkwardness, being a book-nerd history buff and topics from MLK to NSA to NRA to “what is a man?” It’s a bit of a detour from the regular format.  It’s at least a window into another human story that is always uniquely fascinating. 

The irony within this episode is Bob and Chris critique how ill-informed people often talk too much without having the proper knowledge to do so, and yet I (Cass) am the perfect example of that.  

Also, a point I think this conversation raises is that Bob and Chris are life-long non-theists and I was a Christian til 40. I honestly didn't care about "worldly" things--news, world events, history, etc. I only cared about Godly things, things that involved the Kingdom of God. I'm very learned in Scripture and theological topics (which is normally what the podcast is about). This episode exposes my lack of knowledge of the world, and serves as a reminder why are podcast is not topical, but about individual's religious journeys.

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https://unbucklingblog.wordpress.com/

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music is the theme music for Chris’ podcast: Unbuckling the Bible Belt written and performed by Eric Parsons, marrman89@gmail.com

Direct download: Ep_45_Chris_the_SeathenHeathen.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 4:34pm CDT
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Episode 44 - Mandisa Thomas

Today our guest is Mandisa L. Thomas, the President of Black NonBelievers Inc.  This is the first in a series of interviews I conducted at the American Atheist convention in Memphis, Easter weekend.  I sat down with Mandisa as she was manning the Black Nonbelievers table at the Conference.  The background noise is constant so put on your loud barroom conversation ears and you’ll hear every word.  

As a description of the function Black Nonbelievers, she writes on the website, “Those of us that do not believe in God are all around you.  We’re everyday people, just trying to live normal lives like everyone else.  We’re your neighbors, students, employees, employers and entrepreneurs. A good many of us are also sitting next to you in religious institutions – either in doubt about their faith, or have given it up altogether. But because serious consequences could occur as a result of going public with their nonbelief – including being shunned by friends and family – they sit in silence and pretend to agree with something they no longer believe is true. And that’s where we come in. We exist not as an alternative, but as a primary support system. Whether you are fully out as a nonbeliever, still questioning your faith, or even if you have to pretend to go with the flow, but need a safe place to vent – we are here for you.”

This was an intense interview for me because of how ignorant I feel as a white, privileged male.  I know you’re going to notice my inherent racism in this conversation. Mandisa was very graceful to my blind-spots and I absolutely loved talking to her. I think there’s a lot here for everyone.  My talk with Mandisa is 44 minutes, followed by commentary with Bob for 27 minutes. --Cass Midgley

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https://blacknonbelievers.wordpress.com/

Credits: "Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU / Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson / All other music by Cass Midgley

www.everyonesagnostic.com hosts: Cass Midgley & Dr. Bob Pondillo 

Direct download: Episode_44_Mandisa_Thomas_-_Black_NonBelievers.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 5:21pm CDT
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Episode 43 - Author Reba Riley "Post-Traumatic Church Syndrome"

Author Reba Riley was raised charismatic evangelical, a graduate of the Focus on the Family Institute, comforted by the safety and certainty of living without doubts.  Then the questions came and eventually the bottom fell out and, like many of us, Reba had to rediscover herself and reality. She visits over 30 different religious experiences in a pilgrimage ala Eat Pray Love.  

Her book, “Post-Traumatic Church Syndrome: a Memoir of Humor and Healing in 30 Religions,” is that story. 

Taped on April 18th, 2015. Co-hosts Cass Midgley & Bob Pondillo

Patreon.com/eapodcast

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Percussion by Cass Midgley

Direct download: Episode_43_-_Reba_Riley.mp3
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Episode 42 - Tracey Moody

Guest: Blogger and atheist activist Tracey Moody. Very candid interview. Tracey was never a believer. Part of Tracey’s freedom and fearlessness comes from never having been trained under theism. Instead Tracey looked to science for answers and meaning. Tracey’s now famous question at the Creation Debate b/w Ken Ham and Bill Nye was, “What, if anything, would ever you change your mind?” It’s a good question for all of us. This interview was taped on April 13th, 2015.

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http://themoodyatheist.com/

Credits: 

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Percussion by Cass Midgley

Hosts: Cass Midgley & Bob Pondillo

midgley.cass@gmail.com

Direct download: Episode_42_Tracey_Moody.mp3
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Episode 41 - Geoff Little, Beer & Hymns

Guest: Geoff Little.  Like all interviews, this is a snapshot in time of a personal journey.  Geoff is the son of the head of the Christian Broadcasting Network, second only to Pat Robertson himself.  Geoff is in that rock-and-a-hard-place space of identifying as Christian but embarrassed by it every day.  But, since we could easily make a case that Jesus would be embarrassed by today’s Christianity, it begs the question, is Geoff more or less of a Christian?  This is where SO many Americans are today—wanting to hang onto Jesus but disgusted by what poses as Christianity today.  You can hear the tension in his words, of not wanting to throw Christianity under the bus while being brutally honest with himself about what he sees. 

 Geoff is the founder of the Beer and Hymns movement in Nashville.  In fact, there’s one coming up Thursday, April 30th, 7:30pm at Mercy Lounge in Nashville.  $5 in advance/$8 at the door, and I think that includes a ticket for one beer.  Geoff experiments with stand-up comedy and story-telling.  You can YouTube him and get a feel for his sensibilities.  He’s one of my best friends in middle Tennessee.  I think you’re gonna like him.  We taped this show on April 5th, 2015 in my backyard.  Geoff provided the beer.  

Bob & I will be at ReAsonCon 2015 in Hickory NC April 25th.  Hope to see you there. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.  If you’re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a tip jar for our work. That’s p a t r e o n dot com slash eapodcast.  My thanks to Bob and Geoff for making this conversation possible. 

 http://www.beerhymns.com/

Bart Ehrman & James White Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35zWvmkHBo

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“It is Well” accapella by Sam Robson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG525x2mUTU

“It is Well” solo piano John Pahlow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQgN2u0Iac

All other music by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: Episode_41_Geoff_Little_2.mp3
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Episode 40 - Atheist Debater Justin Schieber

Atheist debater Justin Schieber is a young, brilliant self-taught student of Philosophy and Religion.  You can find his debates on YouTube.  Justin is a thinker who uses debate to invigorate the conversation, not end it; to expand our knowledge and enhance our understanding of the "other" perspective.  This episode is an intellectual conversation. It is followable and everyone should be able to get something out of it.  

We taped this show on March 27th, 2015 on a field recorder so its not our regular standard of quality and the memory card filled up after about an hour so it ends rather abruptly.  When we realized what happened we just did the closer questions on Justin’s iPhone and wrapped it up. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Piano by Cass Midgley

 

 

Direct download: Episode_40_Justin_Scheiber.mp3
Category:atheism -- posted at: 7:34pm CDT
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Episode 39 - Benjamin L. Corey

Christian bridge-builder, Benjamin L. Corey blogs as Formerly Fundie on Patheos.  He graduated cum laude from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in his home state of Maine with two Masters degrees in theology and missiology and is a current doctoral student at Fuller Theological Seminary. He is the author of “Undiluted: Rediscovering The Radical Message of Jesus.”  He is one of those, like so many that we have on this show, that have followed (or taken) Jesus in the opposite direction of today’s hijacked Christianity, to what he calls non-violent enemy love. From the highly individualized Western Christian culture to Jesus’ socially collective community-driven message.  Ben is highly active in helping out the least of these and making the world a better place.  I think, like so many progressive Christians, he’s one step away from humanism, but by his own admission, couldn’t be an atheist even if he wanted to. 

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This episode was taped on March 23rd, 2015. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Guitar bumper by Cass Midgley

http://benjaminlcorey.com/

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/

 

 

Direct download: Episode_39_-_Benjamin_L_Corey_Christian_Missionary.mp3
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Episode 38 - Hemant Mehta

Guest: Hemant Mehta.  Author, blogger, and atheist activist. Hemant is a bridgebuilder.  We survey his journey from childhood to now, including his religious background of Jainism, how his emergence as a Youtube sensation started, and what he’s working on now. 

This show was taped on March 17th, 2015. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“Look Back In” by Moby

 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAtheistVoice

“I Sold My Soul on Ebay” by Hemant Mehta

 

 

Direct download: Episode_38_-_Hemant_Mehta.mp3
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Episode 37 - Kathy Escobar

Guest: Kathy Escobar, author of “Faith Shift: Finding Your Way Forward when Everything You Believe is Falling Apart.” She is co-pastor of the refuge, an eclectic faith community in north denver, and mother of 5. She’s an advocate for friends in hard places, a trained spiritual director, teacher and facilitater of events, workshops, and groups. 

I see Kathy as one of those who deconstructed her faith down to the bare bones and kept some of the bones specifically, Jesus.  Bob and I have intermingle these progressive Christian guests with those who have completely deconstructed everything because we suspect our listeners (and most Americans) are somewhere in this continuum between fundamentalist Christian asshole and atheist asshole. 

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This show was taped on March 14th, 2015. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“Breathe” by Blue Stone

http://kathyescobar.com/

http://therefugeonline.org/

 

 

Direct download: Episode_37_-_Kathy_Escobar.mp3
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Episode 36 - Best of the Web Sampler

We round up some of the best examples of what’s available in atheist media.  We discuss 5 short selections from atheist youtubes and podcasts, including pieces from Mr. Deity and Richard Dawkins, Noah Lugeons of The Scathing Atheist podcast, youtuber Qualia Soup, TJ Kinkaid, aka The Amazing Atheist, and we close with an excerpt from Christopher Hitchens’  last public speech on earth.  

This show was taped on March 4th, 2015. 

Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

“Auratune” off Master Plan by Dave Weckl

“Mr. Deity and the Atheist” featuring Brian Keith Dalton and Richard Dawkins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFK0SrbaZs

Noah Lugeons, The Scathing Atheist Podcast, Episode 103, the Diatribe: Post-Secular 

http://scathingatheist.com/2015/02/05/episode-103-show-notes/

QualiaSoup “Lack of Beliefs in Gods”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNDZb0KtJDk

TheAmazingAtheist, TJ Kincaid, “Atheists Are Just As Bad.”  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n8d_KCUtrs

The End ~Christopher Hitchens, by Scientific Unity 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yr5OLePNlI

The edited portion of Hitchen’s speech transcribed:

 

I’m not as I was.  Something I urgently felt I ought to do or say…and one mustn’t repine or give in to self pity about that, but at this present moment I have to say, I feel very envious of someone who is young and actively starting out in this argument.  Just think of the extraordinary things that are happening to us. Go, for example, to the Smithsonian museum (I hope you’ve done this) to the new hall of human origins-- magnicificanty curated in a new exhibition--which shows, among other things, the branch, or branches along which perhaps three, certainly three, maybe four if you count Indonesia, humanoid, shall we say, anthropoid species died out not very long ago, within mearuable distance of 75,000 years or so.  Possibly destroyed by us, possibly not, we don’t know.  We know they decorated their graves.  We think they probably had language ability.  We don't know if they had souls (I'm sorry I cant help you there).  But I so envy those who could glimpse...I've only mentioned three or four of the things that have magnetized and charmed and gratified me to think about in the recent past, and how much I hope that each of you form some such ambition this evening and carries it forward.  In the meantime, we had the same job we always had, to say as thinking people and as humans that there are no final solutions, there is no absolute truth, there is no supreme leader, there is no totalitarian solution, that says if you would just give up your freedom of inquiry, if you would just give up, if you would simply abandon your critical faculties the world of idiotic bliss can be yours but we have to begin by repudiating all such claims.  Grand rabbis, chief ayatollahs, infallible popes, the peddlers of surrogate and mutant, quasi-political religion and worship. The Dear Leader, the Great Leader, we have no need for any of this.  And looking at them and their record and the pathos of their supporters, I realize that it is they who are the grand imposters.  And my own imposture this evening was mild by comparison.  Thank you very much.  –Christopher Hitchens, 2011

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Episode 35 - Dr. Marlene Winell

Guest: Dr. Marlene Winell , author of “Leaving the Fold,” and founder of journeyfree.org.  Marlene was the daughter of Christian missionaries in China with the Assemblies of God.  She left Christianity later in life due to the sexism, the notion of original sin, the dichotomy of saved and damned, and the broken promises within scripture.  She now counsels people and leads retreats for those damaged by religion.  She calls it Religious Trauma Syndrome or RTS.  

Leaving one's religion can be a difficult, painful and lonely pilgrimage, but the payoffs are great.  As Marlene writes in her book, “…there was no turning back. The mental and emotional doors to the future had been opened. The honesty and gut-level confrontation with my humanness - the good, the bad, and the ugly - was delicious.”  

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 This show was taped on February 28th, 2015. 

 Credits:

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
"Never Know" by Jack Johnson
“Fix You” by Coldplay
 
We discussed:
Religious Trauma Syndrome
Christian Fundementalism
The Jesus Movement
Calvary Chapel
The perpetual urgency of the return of Christ
(aka Bad Prom Date)
The pain of leaving religion is correlated to the degree in which one was invested in it
Shattered Assumption Theory
Walt Whitman – Song of Myself
Quote from Charles Eliot Norton: “One may sigh for all that one loses in giving up the old religion…but the new irreligion is the humaner, honester, and simpler thing, and a affords a better theory of life and a more solid basis for morality.” 
 
extra:
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Episode 34 Fred Rich: Christian Nation

Our guest is Fred Rich, author of the dystopian novel, “Christian Nation.” Fred is a polymath, who studied politics and policy at Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School and pursued graduate work in moral philosophy as a Keasbey Scholar at King’s College, Cambridge. He practiced law for the past 30 years.  Newly retired, he splits his time between Manhattan and New York’s Hudson Valley where he is working on a non-fiction book about environmental politics, and several other novels.

 

Although this book, Christian Nation, is fiction, it does not stretch reality, it is not a conspiracy theory, it lays out exactly how, through legitimate legal means, America could become a Christian Theocracy.  The wall of separation is vulnerable. In the spirit of Philip Roth's The Plot Against America, one of America's foremost lawyers lays out in chilling detail what such a future might look like: constitutional protections dismantled; all aspects of life dominated by an authoritarian law called "The Blessing," enforced by a reconfigured Internet known as the "Purity Web." Those who defy this system, among them the narrator, live on the edges of society, sustained by the belief that democracy will rise to triumph over such tyrannical oppression.

 

This show was taped on February 21st, 2015. 

 

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Youtube trailer for the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxrkXdnlzks

“Ashielf Pi” by E.S. Posthumus

“This Land is Your Land” by Woody Guthrie

 

Literature referenced:  

It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis

The Plot Against America, Philip Roth

The Handmaid’s Tale, Margaret Atwood

Republican Gomorrah, Max Blumenthal

Kingdom Coming, Michelle Goldberg

American Fascists, Chris Hedges

Empire of Illusion, Chris Hedges

American Theocracy, Kevin Phillips

At the Smithville Methodist Church, Stephen Dunn

 

 

 

 

 

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Episode 33 - Jim Henderson

Author Jim Henderson has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Fox Television, and This American Life with Ira Glass. He’s a former pastor now spiritual anthropologist. His books include Evangelism Without Additives, The Outsider Interviews, The Resignation of Eve, and his latest, Question Mark about spiritual pride and the downfall of Mark Driscoll.  

Jim prescribes what he calls “otherlyness.”  1) be interested in others, 2) stay in the room with difference, and 3) stop comparing your best with the worst of others.  Jim’s mission is, in his own words, to Take Jesus Public, and once again Cass finds himself talking to a Christian with whom he gets along really well.  Unfortunately Bob was out of town and had to miss this taping. This show was taped on February 14th, 2015.

Credits: 

"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU

"Never Know" by Jack Johnson

All other music by Jim Henderson

Books discussed:

“To Change the World” by James Davison Hunter

“Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software” by Steven Johnson

“The Shack” William P. Young

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Episode 32 - Ryan Bell, Year Without God

Our guest is Ryan Bell, the Year Without God pastor.  His experiement proved fatal to his faith but Ryan holds onto the good and embarks on a new journy, like many of us have, reconstructing his own "how now shall I live."  A 7th Day Adventist pastor for 20 years, Ryan could no longer harmonize his reality with his religion.  We also talk about the President's prayer breakfast and the mutual exclusivity of love and power.  

Credits: 
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
"Never Know" by Jack Johnson
"Losing My Religion" by REM 
"World" by Five for Fighting
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Episode 31 - Geoff Wilkerson
Geoff grew up Church of Christ Lite, attended Oklahoma Christian for undergrad but 9/11 happened his senior year so he enlisted in the Army. His time in Iraq was a big transition and by the time he got back, he had come to question a lot of the things he'd believed for a long time, including his religious faith. He became very interested in politics and foreign policy as a result. He works in Cybersecurity at Seagate in OKC.
 
He considers his current state to be a step beyond his old views, rather than an abandonment of them. He doesn't harbor any ill will towards the church or the people I knew in that community. He still agrees with a large portion of Jesus's teachings. Geoff is a true agsnotic. He's open to the possibility of divinity, just doesn't believe there is compelling evidence.
 
Geoff loves his life.  He is happily married to an extraordinary woman, enjoys his job, lives close to his family, and considers himself privileged. He's traveled to 40 countries on 5 continents and made long-lasting friendships all along the way. 
 
Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" introduction by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
"I Am Mine" by Pearl Jam
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Episode 30 - Wendy

Moving from the NE 10 years ago, Wendy had a head-on collision with the Christian dominance of the South and she hasn't recovered yet.  Hear her story, told with honesty and New Jersey vernacular.   

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Episode 29 - Pastor Tony Woodall

Tony was raised in the Church of Christ here in Tennessee.  He was moved by signs and wonders to Charismatic Pentacostalism.  But it all imploded and life spiraled downward.  When he returned years later to ministry, it was all about Love and helping those in need.  He's a good ole Southern boy with a big heart!    

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Episode 28 - Brandon Fibbs

Brandon Fibbs, the son of two generations of Assembly of God ministers, let science lead him to a new Truth.  Brandon lives in Los Angeles, works in the TV/movie industry including on "Cosmos" w/ Neil DeGrasse Tyson.  

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Episode 27 - Neil Carter

Former Baptist zealot, Neil Carter, now blogs as "Godless in Dixie."  Hear his story and the great cost of being openly secular in Mississippi.  

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